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KingandPaynter 1:07 Wed Feb 11
Allardyce giving his ego some visibility again in the media

"I don't think there is any coach more sophisticated than me any more," said Allardyce.

"That's not trying to criticise any other coaches but there is only Arsene who has done it longer than me.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9709638/premier-league-no-one-better-than-me-says-west-ham-boss-sam-allardyce?

Sam's recent Manager Of The Month obviously eclipses Wenger achievements in the Premiership since 1996

Arsenal
FA Premier League: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04
FA Cup: 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05, 2013–14
FA Community Shield: 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2014

Premier League Manager of the Season:[258] 1998, 2002, 2004

Willtell 6:14 Thu Feb 12
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SA has a massive ego. He feels he should be loved for achieving all that he has but he is actually loathed. Here, at Blackburn, Newcastle and even Bolton.

He says he doesn't play long ball but he does. His teams rarely excite and if they do his negativity soon drags them down. That is what is happening now.

4-5-1 with Sakho and Valencia wide while Cole lumbers up the middle? Really? I know we were struggling with injuries but he is ruining two of this seasons most exciting forwards.

And then Carroll on the wing? FMOB but SA is starting to believe his own "sophisticated coach" bullshit. But it bored me rigid until a bit of excitement late in the 2nd half when we went down to 9 men effectively. And it got a point away at a top 4 club. That's why I have to support him while hating the prick...

Grumpster 5:52 Thu Feb 12
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Sam doesn't offend me like some (other than his refusal to realise Nolan has been past his best for over a season now), but some of the shit he spouts in his interviews is a little embarrassing.

He speaks like he's a multiple world cup winning manager.

, 5:41 Thu Feb 12
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'Games, where do you think we should be that represents a reasonable return on investment then?

After8 5:25 Thu Feb 12
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Sam's had significant backing in the transfer market. The idea that we're a small little club in need of him is nonsense on stilts.

Two seasons ago we finished tenth..This season we're probably finish 8th to 10th. If we finish 8th that means we've moved an average of just two league places.

That for the investment we've seen is not a great return.

ironsofcanada 4:09 Thu Feb 12
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percyd 2:02 Thu Feb 12

Decent post except I do have a problem with this.

"Nothing was broken yet Sam chose, needlessly, to “fix” it"

This is biggest myth I see perpetuated on here lately. There was no "fixing" that change the lineup that was so successful, there was just dealing with absences. Sakho and Valencia were not available when Carroll began to start, Song was injured in later November and early December. Nolan did not start for two months after he was fit again.

He has made some suspect decisions in regards to leaving things (Nolan) after they have been changed but his initial change were not "needless."

, 4:02 Thu Feb 12
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Percy's you make some interesting points. Managers, like their players, can be very good at one level but put them in the next level up and it does not work out for them. Moyes, although not given sufficient time imho, is a recent example of not coping with the step up in expectations. Rodgers, who has been given time, looks right now as if he is coping and warming to the task of managing a bigger club.

The thing about BFS is we don't yet fully know how he'd cope with a really generous player purchase budget. My feeling is that he is too far down his career path to adapt. He has done what it says on the tin and I hope the owners have a short list of candidates to supersede Sam. Their list of suitable candidates to move us up another level must not include flakey types, like Laudrup, or mercenary cheats like the much overrated Bilic but rather people of the Rodgers or Koeman ilk.

ironsofcanada 3:52 Thu Feb 12
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HairyHammer 2:27 Thu Feb 12

Appreciate that post.

Don't agree with it all but a balanced view.

peroni 3:49 Thu Feb 12
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percyd 2:02 Thu Feb 12

Good post that percyd

motley crue 3:48 Thu Feb 12
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Tanman, I'd rather he'd played an 18 yr old in correct position rather than waste sakho out wide or play unfit Carroll on the wing.

Any Old Iron 3:45 Thu Feb 12
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He's so sophisticated that he nearly closed his mouth when chewing his gum last night. The bovine berk.

tanman 3:32 Thu Feb 12
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Yea, slinging on an 18 year against a top 4 side away from home would have been a great move. If he had cocked up BFS would then be blamed for throwing the kid to the wolves or something.

daveyg 9:44 Thu Feb 12
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His substitutions are one of his main problems.
Against Manu he could see what Fellini was going to do but didn't bring on Cole to help out the defence at set pieces at least . Nolan was limping. He harkes on about players being knackered but with 2 more games coming up in 6 days he doesn't use his full quota.
Last night was even more baffling.
His total lack of faith in any younger players is borderline stupidty. In not playing Burke and using Cole the team was unbalanced. We had nothing to lose by playing Burke, a good performance would leave us in good sted for the future and see what he was made of. He had a enough season pro's to help through the game.
Playing Cole disrupted what we had seen was working previously and as late as against Manu.
Allarydce says Southampton's way has worked, so why contradict himself. Koeman would of not hesitated to use Burke, how the hell are you going to see how a young player would perform.
One step forwards, one step backwards.
Now we have more injuries and don't know how one of our yonger players would perform.
Baffling to say the least.

Brucies_Star_Prize 3:08 Thu Feb 12
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percyd 2:02 Thu Feb 12
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Our drop from 4th to 8th was always likely to happen. We were up there by virtue of our own results, but also because teams below us such as Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal were faltering.

Those three teams have since hit their strides (notably since the break in European competition) and we are finding it hard to keep up. I don't think this is due to some huge sure change in style, it's more the reality of the situation.

We've seen it before recently with WBA and Newcastle flirting with the established top sides, but it nearly always ends with a natural correction over 38 games. As well as Southampton are doing, I think they will experience the same thing.

Now, you may well be right that it will take a manager better than Allardyce to break in to that top 4-6, but I can tell you one thing for sure, it will also take a large increase in the quality of the squad. This will no doubt require significant investment.

I think we face a big challenge next season, regardless of whether Allardyce stays or goes. We need to spend some serious money to secure Jenkinson, Sobg and replace Reid, and that's just to stand still.

We should enjoy this season while it lasts because the margins are fine in this league and there's no guarantee we won't find ourselves in 15th place this time next year, wondering why we haven't pushed on.

KingandPaynter 2:41 Thu Feb 12
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His WHUFC days are numbered with 13 more PL games to go in this season and 'his' players coming to the end of their time Joey O, Nolan and Carroll a huge financial cost for the return.

He won't be managing West Ham next season and he knows it well enough. It's the reason for his constant need to showboat to the media about how good he is - to keep his name on people's minds for next season..

HairyHammer 2:27 Thu Feb 12
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Sophisticated, NO !

Reliable, Infuriating, YES !.

Impossible to love yet difficult to hate .

Has he done a decent job for West Ham utd Football club, 100% YES !

Does he pick rigid teams with very defensive styles when there is no need to, YES !

Would a more attacking manager have done as well as Big Sam over 4 seasons, Probably not.

Would a more attacking manager have done better this season, DEFINITELY !.

Does he deserve the stick he gets, NO !.

Should his contract be renewed, NO !

Should he be applauded when or if he leaves West Ham?, YES a standing ovation too.

Did I believe Big Sam would get the Hammers promoted and be in top flight football for three seasons when he took over, NO !

Do i hate the style West Ham play mostly play under allardyce , YES !

That is my opinion on him.

percyd 2:02 Thu Feb 12
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norwaytips 1:07 Thu Feb 12


norway, what you say is fair enough. The current table would suggest he is the 8th best manager in the Prem. And Sam has done pretty much all that has been asked of him. If his contract is renewed come June I’d be a little surprised, but would find it bearable.

For me, the problem with Sam is his scattergun approach to logic. For example, we got a new side settled quite quickly and hit a purple patch, finding ourselves in the top 4 after some great results and performances. Nothing was broken yet Sam chose, needlessly, to “fix” it. Result - we’re now 8th and will struggle to improve on that. His team selections, tactics and substitutions frustrate and puzzle. And let’s not get started on the drivel he talks (mercifully something he has in common with so many coaches, managers and pundits). Sophisticated?!!! Someone buy the man a dictionary.

If the owners (who must share in the credit for assembling the current squad) are serious about moving onwards and upwards Sam will have to be replaced. He simply doesn’t have the tactical nous to sustain a top-4 (top-6 even) challenge over a season. Managers like Sam, and Tony Pulis and a few others I could mention are reliable and will keep you in the top-earning division, but that is all. Having said that, I’m not sure any manager will be given sufficient moolah by the present owners to make a sustained attack on CL places. If that is so, maybe we are better off with devil-you-know-Sam than risking change without significant further investment.

Guess we’ll find out come May.

Gavros 1:10 Thu Feb 12
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I think people might be underestimating the fact that we've been amongst the highest net spenders in English football for a few years now.

norwaytips 1:07 Thu Feb 12
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He's one of the best managers in the PL, without a doubt. Got us up in one go. Kept us up for two years and pushed on well, this year. Still in the FA cup, too.
A good point tonight against top three side and very unlucky not to beat Man. Utd. We are having a decent season, so why all the moaning?

theaxeman 1:03 Thu Feb 12
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How much longer do we have to put up with this ignoramus, he really is a bore.

HMP 12:30 Thu Feb 12
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Lily Hammer

I think you are deluded. You say:

I reckon Allardyce has earnt the chance to try and take us further.

Well he's had the chance to do that this season and you know what he said:

over achievement is dangerous.

He bottled it.

Pure sophistication.

WTF was Cole picked for today. Feckin bizarre.

I seriously suspect that BFS is mentally ill.

Now wise up or better still FUCK OFF.

The Kronic 12:14 Thu Feb 12
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Lily Hammer 9:05

Lily you lily-livered tart; fuck off and bleat on KUMB with like minded wet blankets. Oh you already are.
*sniggers

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